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Elder Scrolls Lore

This plane of Oblivion is Apocyrpha, the place to be for knowledge boners. It is managed by three beings, Matt FeeneyTom and Phil. While each is independent, together this triune make up the over-soul of a knowledge-hoarding Hermaeus-Mora like entity.

Representing HoonDingery, Thu'umery and Imperiority - the ending of the words is MATTOMPHI.

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Welcome

So, another seeker of knowledge enters our realm. This is Apocrypha, where all knowledge is hoarded. Perhaps you'll prove clever enough to uncover the secrets hidden here. If so, welcome. Perhaps you are a fool or a coward. If so you are in peril. Escape before Apocrypha claims you forever!

Amongst the infinite stacks and shelves of this library of forbidden knowledge you will find: 

The Directory

Many scholars and loremasters have been ensnared by the lure of learning the secrets that only Hermaeus Mora possesses. Here are those secrets...

Suggestions

Some areas of the realm are consumed by darkness. Missing pages and blank floating tomes fill the air...

Ask A Lore Question

The spirits of mortals who lingered too long in search of answers haunt these maze-like halls. Beware, lest you join them for eternity...

Posting Rules

The Seekers who guard the eternal mysteries require certain conditions be met before a manuscript will added to the towering stacks...

Just For Fun

Test your knowledge by taking on these devious quizzes...

Resources and Frequently Asked Questions

In the event Apocrypha does not have the answers you seek, these may help you on your quest...

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Started by Paul. Last reply by Phil the Pariah 1 hour ago. 7272 Replies

This is a general discussion topic for anyone to ask questions about lore.Ask away...and hopefully other members of this group will answer Continue

Aedra: Tsun

Started by Phil the Pariah 3 hours ago. 0 Replies

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Tags: Phil, Lore: Nords, Lore: Aedra

Mara and the Ritual Stone

Started by AncienTzSlayeR. Last reply by Tom yesterday. 114 Replies

What is the connection between Mara and the Ritual? Is there something in game,…Continue

Tags: Theories, Stone, Ritual, Mara

Elder Scrolls: Races Quiz

Started by Kiralla. Last reply by Hist-Breaker Apr 18. 15 Replies

Well peeps, here's the next quiz in the series. How much do you know about the races of Tamriel?Elder Scrolls: Races QuizContinue

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Discussion: Was Azura Responsible for the Dunmer's Appearence?

Started by Phil the Pariah. Last reply by Phil the Pariah Apr 12. 13 Replies

"What you have done here today is foul beyond measure and you will grow to regret it, for the lives of gods are not what mortals think and matters that weigh only years to mortals weigh on gods forever." And so that they might know forever their…Continue

Tags: Lore: Dunmer, Phil, Lore: General Discussion

The Alduin Akatosh Dilemma

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Tags: Alduin, Akatosh, Nord, Religion

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Comment by Vaaljørn on Thursday

It's settled. I need a job where I can study, write, and contribute to TES lore! To anyone working for Bethesda (we know you're here): I'd be happy to put together a killer resume. 

Comment by Phil the Pariah on April 18, 2015 at 7:50am

Just a quick update: The link to the ESO lore interview is here and I have updated the info in my comment below about Todd Howard and his involvement in lore.

Comment by Phil the Pariah on April 15, 2015 at 9:39am

A few minutes before that starting point I recommended, Lawrence is talking about Zenimax's relationship with Bethesda and how the lore writers are in contact with Kurt Kuhlmann so as not to do anything which would impact the next game. In previous interviews and AMA's, Schick has been pretty clear on what he's allowed to do and not do, so it would be a bit shitty for Todd to do that.

But I am expecting it. I think there is a quote from MK (naturally a bit disgruntled about the "canon" argument ) in which he says something like "Todd probably doesn't know what ____ is." Todd's got bigger concerns than the minutia of lore, but getting his opinion on it is a mistake. He has staff for that

Edit: The quote was actually about Pete Hines rather than Todd Howard and it goes like this:

The Great Pete says if it's not in the game then it's not official.

MK: Pete couldn't tell you who Wulharth is, so he can bite me.

MK is actually rather complimentary of Todd Howard:

I don't think Todd actually has that much involvement with the lore side of things

MK: This is wrong. Todd is always heavily involved.

Comment by Vazgen on April 15, 2015 at 9:16am

Just wait till they release TES 6 and Todd dismisses ESO as not canon 

Comment by Phil the Pariah on April 15, 2015 at 9:13am

It may seem like a small thing and what we were doing anyway, but it is important to this group. Remember before this we only had Todd Howard's comment that:

"Only books which appear in game should be considered canon."

With all these oog books, like Kyne's Challenge, Arms and Armour, Herbalists Guide, Improved Emperor's Guide and the Gregg Keyes novels, such a comment is clearly ridiculous. Plus it was often used out of contest anyway, adding to it's silliness.

Somebody recently said in the Ask a Lore Questions thread:

Yeah, but I didn't think ESO was considered canon in any sense of the word...

Well now we have something of a bit more depth to tackle such a subject should it arise again.

Comment by Vazgen on April 15, 2015 at 9:09am

True, it's the difference between pessimist and optimist at its finest 

Comment by Vaaljørn on April 15, 2015 at 9:03am

but neither of those visions is true


Actually, because of the uncertainty, it can be said that both of those visions are potentially true.

Comment by Vazgen on April 15, 2015 at 8:59am

So... pretty much what we had anyway  There is canon but it doesn't cover all subjects. For those subjects it presents different viewpoints and lets the player to decide what he thinks is right. 

Essentially "every person is free to come up with his/her own vision of the events but neither of those visions is true". 

Comment by Phil the Pariah on April 15, 2015 at 8:48am

In your Green Pact example, it would be a case of if one person told you some facts about it but another npc told you the whole thing was horseshit, both of those contradictory arguments would be true.

In any other IP, only one of those opinions would likely be canon.

So the argument can still be that the Green Pact is canon because it appears in the game - that definition remains intact, but it can never be that the Arcturian Heresy is the canon version of Tiber's rise to power. It can be the most likely, sure, but not the canon using the word's definition in it's "truth" or "authoritative" form.

Edit: Don't be like that Shor. Where the fun in being told this is that? Isn't it better to have your own ideas based on what you learn rather than have them dictated to you?

"In the beginning there was..." Yawn.

Comment by Shor on April 15, 2015 at 8:38am
I may not play another Elder Scrolls game...
 
 
 

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Aedra: Tsun

Started by Phil the Pariah 3 hours ago. 0 Replies

Mara and the Ritual Stone

Started by AncienTzSlayeR. Last reply by Tom yesterday. 114 Replies

The Alduin Akatosh Dilemma

Started by AncienTzSlayeR. Last reply by Phil the Pariah Apr 11. 15 Replies

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